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	<title>Comments on: Extreme Cheap:  Charles Long</title>
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		<title>By: Dolores Hark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolores Hark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 22:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Long is definitely one of my heros! I haven&#039;t had a regular salary or paycheck in about 7 years now. 

My takeaway is more like this - you have to work harder when you are independent, not less hard. If you are lazy, you won&#039;t make it. You have to work to make money and you will see the direct impact of your own effort on your income. You cannot hide behind your salary, flake out and still get paid too. There is no holiday pay and no sick leave (I work frequently on holidays and I still work when I am sick as there is no co-worker to cover for me) - and you have to foot the medical bills yourself - not through government handouts - not sure where that line of thinking stems from here. We are in a &#039;pay for it or don&#039;t get it&#039; situation here in the U.S. I pay for my own insurance - high prices, high deductibles, higher premiums each year.

There are really no excuses for working for unethical parties and making them richer - or buying from those businesses - even if it seems &#039;normal.&#039; If you don&#039;t want a world of Walmarts ( and prey-tell why would you?) - don&#039;t shop and there and - guess what - don&#039;t work there either - get creative - it is not ever your &#039;only&#039; option. I&#039;d much rather deal with an ethical person, friend, or colleague than with a corporate sell out.

The point is to slow down and think about what we are doing and the ramifications (economically, environmentally), not whether we are a lazy bum for not &#039;having a job&#039; or whether we seem &#039;cheap.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Long is definitely one of my heros! I haven&#8217;t had a regular salary or paycheck in about 7 years now. </p>
<p>My takeaway is more like this &#8211; you have to work harder when you are independent, not less hard. If you are lazy, you won&#8217;t make it. You have to work to make money and you will see the direct impact of your own effort on your income. You cannot hide behind your salary, flake out and still get paid too. There is no holiday pay and no sick leave (I work frequently on holidays and I still work when I am sick as there is no co-worker to cover for me) &#8211; and you have to foot the medical bills yourself &#8211; not through government handouts &#8211; not sure where that line of thinking stems from here. We are in a &#8216;pay for it or don&#8217;t get it&#8217; situation here in the U.S. I pay for my own insurance &#8211; high prices, high deductibles, higher premiums each year.</p>
<p>There are really no excuses for working for unethical parties and making them richer &#8211; or buying from those businesses &#8211; even if it seems &#8216;normal.&#8217; If you don&#8217;t want a world of Walmarts ( and prey-tell why would you?) &#8211; don&#8217;t shop and there and &#8211; guess what &#8211; don&#8217;t work there either &#8211; get creative &#8211; it is not ever your &#8216;only&#8217; option. I&#8217;d much rather deal with an ethical person, friend, or colleague than with a corporate sell out.</p>
<p>The point is to slow down and think about what we are doing and the ramifications (economically, environmentally), not whether we are a lazy bum for not &#8216;having a job&#8217; or whether we seem &#8216;cheap.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cheap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Cheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across a couple of videos of Mr. Long talking &lt;a href=&quot;http://youngretired.ca/RetirementBooks/CharlesLong/CharlesLong.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across a couple of videos of Mr. Long talking <a href="http://youngretired.ca/RetirementBooks/CharlesLong/CharlesLong.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cheap</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/extreme-cheap-charles-long/comment-page-1/#comment-62056</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Cheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie:  He used to live outside of Ottawa (in Rideau Ferry according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/1997-01-27/business/fi-22700_1_conserver-lifestyle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;).  I have no idea if he&#039;s still alive let alone if he&#039;s available by e-mail.

If you ever get in touch with him, encourage him to swing by and comment on this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie:  He used to live outside of Ottawa (in Rideau Ferry according to <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/1997-01-27/business/fi-22700_1_conserver-lifestyle" rel="nofollow">this article</a>).  I have no idea if he&#8217;s still alive let alone if he&#8217;s available by e-mail.</p>
<p>If you ever get in touch with him, encourage him to swing by and comment on this post!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Zatzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Zatzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following Charles Long&#039;s philosophy for more than 20 years, more because I was a single parent frequently unemployed than because I left the workforce. It worked. My kids were lightly different, but are ahead of the game now. The love of books, art, do-it-yourself things, and ideas hs motivated them to strive for high goals in university while the young people they grew up with have often been distracted by consumerism. 

So, I am a fan. However, I am older now, an unemployed again. I would like an update on what Long would suggest for someone in my circumstances. I would also like to know if, through experience, he has fine-tuned, or modified any of his observations. I would love to have an email address for him, or find where he is. Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following Charles Long&#8217;s philosophy for more than 20 years, more because I was a single parent frequently unemployed than because I left the workforce. It worked. My kids were lightly different, but are ahead of the game now. The love of books, art, do-it-yourself things, and ideas hs motivated them to strive for high goals in university while the young people they grew up with have often been distracted by consumerism. </p>
<p>So, I am a fan. However, I am older now, an unemployed again. I would like an update on what Long would suggest for someone in my circumstances. I would also like to know if, through experience, he has fine-tuned, or modified any of his observations. I would love to have an email address for him, or find where he is. Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE Charles Long Book, it changed my life!  I started the conserver lifestyle over 5 years ago, and have never been happier!  I am a single mother with one school aged child and I live on less than $1200.00 per month COMFORTABLY!  I have time to spend with my child (most single mothers are working 2 or more jobs), and I have time to spend volunteering (with my child) to balance out my time.  I am sooo FREE!  I live in the USA, and all I have to say is What bad economy?  I don&#039;t even notice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Charles Long Book, it changed my life!  I started the conserver lifestyle over 5 years ago, and have never been happier!  I am a single mother with one school aged child and I live on less than $1200.00 per month COMFORTABLY!  I have time to spend with my child (most single mothers are working 2 or more jobs), and I have time to spend volunteering (with my child) to balance out my time.  I am sooo FREE!  I live in the USA, and all I have to say is What bad economy?  I don&#8217;t even notice!</p>
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		<title>By: Art Is Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Is Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got his book used for $1.75.  Only get a partial pat on the back I think.  I enjoyed reading the comments above.  Only thing I can say today is that given things today it might make even more sense and might not even end up being a choice but a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got his book used for $1.75.  Only get a partial pat on the back I think.  I enjoyed reading the comments above.  Only thing I can say today is that given things today it might make even more sense and might not even end up being a choice but a necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly different that the &quot;make as much as you can&quot; philosophy that many follow.  We are used to hearing about making as much money as you can and then living within your means or below.
Wonderful story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly different that the &#8220;make as much as you can&#8221; philosophy that many follow.  We are used to hearing about making as much money as you can and then living within your means or below.<br />
Wonderful story!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel @ Master Your Card</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel @ Master Your Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that I am similar to him in that I do not go out to work but stay home and look after the children. I have never looked into the cost of childcare - looking after them is my choice. I do run my own business from home but it is a risk as there is no guaranteed income but I really enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that I am similar to him in that I do not go out to work but stay home and look after the children. I have never looked into the cost of childcare &#8211; looking after them is my choice. I do run my own business from home but it is a risk as there is no guaranteed income but I really enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Four Pillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo - I&#039;m with you on the kids bday parties - complete waste of money.

Regarding &#039;lazy&#039; - I think another version of lazy is people who work hard at things they like to do while neglecting other tasks they don&#039;t like.  I&#039;m very guilty of this at times.  I&#039;m a pretty &#039;hard worker&#039; when it comes to writing posts for this blog because I am very interested in doing that but when it comes to changing the cat litter etc...I&#039;m pretty lazy!  To be honest it sounds like this guy is the same way.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo &#8211; I&#8217;m with you on the kids bday parties &#8211; complete waste of money.</p>
<p>Regarding &#8216;lazy&#8217; &#8211; I think another version of lazy is people who work hard at things they like to do while neglecting other tasks they don&#8217;t like.  I&#8217;m very guilty of this at times.  I&#8217;m a pretty &#8216;hard worker&#8217; when it comes to writing posts for this blog because I am very interested in doing that but when it comes to changing the cat litter etc&#8230;I&#8217;m pretty lazy!  To be honest it sounds like this guy is the same way.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Cheap - Not sure if you have read &quot;The Complete Tightwad Gazette&quot; but the author (a Maine housewife who ran a frugality newsletter for 6 years) describes amazing and beautifully creative birthday parties she threw for her six kids for extraordinarily little cost, including building a life-size pirate ship replete with hidden treasure. It&#039;s a remarkable book, deserving of its &#039;classic&#039; status in simple living circles.

I was at a birthday party for a 1 yr old a couple of weeks ago - the group of babies played more as much with the wrapping paper and empty boxes as they did with the deluge of cheap plastic toys (imported from China, possibly assembed by other children..). 

I don&#039;t mean to be a downer - people should follow their passions and do what makes them feel truly alive, if that attracts a salary, great! - but parts of our culture have gone amok with affluenza..  I for one continue to earn a professional salary, but I&#039;m trying to live as frually as possible (which is not a deprivation, but is joyful) so that in three years or so I can do all sorts of things and not have to worry about whether I get paid to do them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Cheap &#8211; Not sure if you have read &#8220;The Complete Tightwad Gazette&#8221; but the author (a Maine housewife who ran a frugality newsletter for 6 years) describes amazing and beautifully creative birthday parties she threw for her six kids for extraordinarily little cost, including building a life-size pirate ship replete with hidden treasure. It&#8217;s a remarkable book, deserving of its &#8216;classic&#8217; status in simple living circles.</p>
<p>I was at a birthday party for a 1 yr old a couple of weeks ago &#8211; the group of babies played more as much with the wrapping paper and empty boxes as they did with the deluge of cheap plastic toys (imported from China, possibly assembed by other children..). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be a downer &#8211; people should follow their passions and do what makes them feel truly alive, if that attracts a salary, great! &#8211; but parts of our culture have gone amok with affluenza..  I for one continue to earn a professional salary, but I&#8217;m trying to live as frually as possible (which is not a deprivation, but is joyful) so that in three years or so I can do all sorts of things and not have to worry about whether I get paid to do them.</p>
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