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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never tried working in a big company but I think if I would be given a chance to work in a company I won&#039;t try job hopping and would not try to ask for increase. I will just wait for my employer to give me one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never tried working in a big company but I think if I would be given a chance to work in a company I won&#8217;t try job hopping and would not try to ask for increase. I will just wait for my employer to give me one.</p>
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		<title>By: telly</title>
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		<dc:creator>telly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

You can display data on salary.com by city, though I&#039;ve found that sometimes you&#039;re better off not knowing! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>You can display data on salary.com by city, though I&#8217;ve found that sometimes you&#8217;re better off not knowing! <img src='http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telly,

I&#039;ve never compared them.  I would guess salary.com uses the fedral government&#039;s data which really is the sum of each provincial association data.

I always prefer the local data as it reflects the market I&#039;m looking at better.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telly,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never compared them.  I would guess salary.com uses the fedral government&#8217;s data which really is the sum of each provincial association data.</p>
<p>I always prefer the local data as it reflects the market I&#8217;m looking at better.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Four Pillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It could also be your level of work. I get raises without asking because my company needs me and they like my work.

Maybe others should get the hint?&lt;/i&gt;

Kim, my company gives everyone a raise each year because we keep breathing.   If they are trying to give me a hint to keep breathing then I guess I&#039;ve gotten it.  :)

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It could also be your level of work. I get raises without asking because my company needs me and they like my work.</p>
<p>Maybe others should get the hint?</i></p>
<p>Kim, my company gives everyone a raise each year because we keep breathing.   If they are trying to give me a hint to keep breathing then I guess I&#8217;ve gotten it.  <img src='http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted for truth: <i>Everyone knows that the situation may change but if they can’t back the concept of a future raise in writing then they were never serious to begin with.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ron</b>: was that &#8220;net&#8221; after or before salaries were paid? With or without investor payback, etc.  Like was there a pool of 800k just sitting around every year that was owed to no one?</p>
<p>For that to be the case, each of the ten employees would have to be generating $40/hour of <b>profits</b> per employee! That&#8217;s a pretty huge number!</p>
<p>Otherwise, 800k basically covers 10 salaries at 40k / year <img src='http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><b>Cheap:</b><br />
<i>&#8230; once a company has a person in a set position at a set salary, they don’t want that to change&#8230; keeping things the way they are seem to be more important that keeping that person.</i></p>
<p>I honestly think that this is directly related to the fact that most employers are just bad at employee development. The best companies are constantly looking for ways to raise <i>everybody&#8217;s</i> salary, the best companies are offering their employees pay raises and drafting annual performance plans.</p>
<p>But most companies are just trying to fill gaps. The reason that most people only get pay raises from company jumping is that most companies don&#8217;t have a plan to give them a raise. The average company isn&#8217;t in a growth phase, they&#8217;re trying to keep costs down. So they (mistakenly) figure that stalling promotion is a good way to do this.</p>
<p>Many companies ignore the cost of finding good employees (just like the people who ignore the cost of car ownership when they figure out the size of their car loan).  And let&#8217;s not forget that most <b>people</b> inherently fear change.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re new to an industry, you&#8217;ll likely have to accept the short end of the stick. But keep your resume ready. I wouldn&#8217;t accept &#8220;future consideration&#8221; unless I was really comfortable or in control of the risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could also be your level of work.  I get raises without asking because my company needs me and they like my work.

Maybe others should get the hint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could also be your level of work.  I get raises without asking because my company needs me and they like my work.</p>
<p>Maybe others should get the hint?</p>
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		<title>By: EmperorCoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmperorCoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been with the same company all my working life (8 years).

My personal experience is totally opposite of Mr Cheap.  I feel I&#039;ve always been treated well salary-wise (10%+ rise per year, topped with stock options and bonuses).  My bosses have always recognized my performance and contribution to the company without me having to negotiate anything.

Maybe I got lucky to work on projects which were higly profitable for the company, but I do believe I deserved part of that success because of my implication and work. I do work in a highly competitive business where talents are scarce (video games programmer), so that helps.

One year after my annual performance review, the HR girl told me quite frankly that if I got an offer from some other place, that they&#039;d try to match it.  I was surprised that she was so direct and proactive.  I never used the strategy though, they always treated me fairly, I was never compelled to.

I guess it&#039;s 80% luck.  I got hired at the right time in the right company, in the right industry, with the appropriate skills.  YMMV.

Emp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with the same company all my working life (8 years).</p>
<p>My personal experience is totally opposite of Mr Cheap.  I feel I&#8217;ve always been treated well salary-wise (10%+ rise per year, topped with stock options and bonuses).  My bosses have always recognized my performance and contribution to the company without me having to negotiate anything.</p>
<p>Maybe I got lucky to work on projects which were higly profitable for the company, but I do believe I deserved part of that success because of my implication and work. I do work in a highly competitive business where talents are scarce (video games programmer), so that helps.</p>
<p>One year after my annual performance review, the HR girl told me quite frankly that if I got an offer from some other place, that they&#8217;d try to match it.  I was surprised that she was so direct and proactive.  I never used the strategy though, they always treated me fairly, I was never compelled to.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s 80% luck.  I got hired at the right time in the right company, in the right industry, with the appropriate skills.  YMMV.</p>
<p>Emp</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m offered a &#039;carrot&#039;.  I get it in writing with a firm timeline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m offered a &#8216;carrot&#8217;.  I get it in writing with a firm timeline.</p>
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		<title>By: ThickenMyWallet</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThickenMyWallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies have really lost their drive to train and develop talent. It would be one thing if they paid you below market but gave you great training or put you into a management trainee program but to ask you to work under market rates is just plain dumb talent management. 

If they offered you some future increase in salary, I would have that put in writing including the criteria and when they will give you a raise. Everyone knows that the situation may change but if they can&#039;t back the concept of a future raise in writing then they were never serious to begin with.

The whole &quot;we&#039;ll give you equity&quot; is something I would only do if they offered a management positions and you got to look at their books. After all, if you are going to own a piece of the company, shouldn&#039;t you know everything about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies have really lost their drive to train and develop talent. It would be one thing if they paid you below market but gave you great training or put you into a management trainee program but to ask you to work under market rates is just plain dumb talent management. </p>
<p>If they offered you some future increase in salary, I would have that put in writing including the criteria and when they will give you a raise. Everyone knows that the situation may change but if they can&#8217;t back the concept of a future raise in writing then they were never serious to begin with.</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;we&#8217;ll give you equity&#8221; is something I would only do if they offered a management positions and you got to look at their books. After all, if you are going to own a piece of the company, shouldn&#8217;t you know everything about it?</p>
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