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		<title>By: zverenok</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/resps-baby-expenses-xi/comment-page-1/#comment-30014</link>
		<dc:creator>zverenok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so RRSPs no longer ceased in bankruptcy as of July 2008, and RESPs are? If RESP is in trust for a child, and is locked in, isn&#039;t it protected from ceasing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so RRSPs no longer ceased in bankruptcy as of July 2008, and RESPs are? If RESP is in trust for a child, and is locked in, isn&#8217;t it protected from ceasing?</p>
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		<title>By: Single Step Financial Improvement Challenge - Set Up RESP Account</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/resps-baby-expenses-xi/comment-page-1/#comment-7814</link>
		<dc:creator>Single Step Financial Improvement Challenge - Set Up RESP Account</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most of you know, my wife and I recently had another child so one of our goals was to set up an RESP account for her.  RESP stands for registered education savings plan which is similar to the 529 plan in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RESPs are seized in bankruptcy. Don&#039;t be fooled. You will lose them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RESPs are seized in bankruptcy. Don&#8217;t be fooled. You will lose them.</p>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Four Pillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franko - RESP funds belong to the parents until they are used.

I&#039;m pretty sure they will get split if there is a divorce.  I&#039;m not sure about the bankruptcy - you&#039;d hope they would get protection similar to an rrsp.

Personally if I was in deep financial trouble I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to use the RESP money to keep us afloat.

You&#039;re right about the broad definition of post-secondary education.

If a beneficiary dies then it&#039;s treated the same way as if they didn&#039;t go to school.  So the plan gets collapsed, penalties on earnings get paid etc.  It can also be transferred to another beneficiary.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franko &#8211; RESP funds belong to the parents until they are used.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure they will get split if there is a divorce.  I&#8217;m not sure about the bankruptcy &#8211; you&#8217;d hope they would get protection similar to an rrsp.</p>
<p>Personally if I was in deep financial trouble I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to use the RESP money to keep us afloat.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about the broad definition of post-secondary education.</p>
<p>If a beneficiary dies then it&#8217;s treated the same way as if they didn&#8217;t go to school.  So the plan gets collapsed, penalties on earnings get paid etc.  It can also be transferred to another beneficiary.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: franko</title>
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		<dc:creator>franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other things supporting an RESP are:

1.  unseizable in event of bankruptcy or marital breakdown - it truly belongs to the kids, no matter what befalls the parents/family

2. the definition of &quot;post secondary education&quot; is very broad - it is not strictly for university, and it is also egalitarian in that it doesn&#039;t necessarily require the student to actually GRADUATE from the post-secondary programme (ie. the money flows regardless of any scholastic results, but is dependent on continued enrollment each year (which allows for switching between institutions and courses/programmes))

3.  it&#039;s a good bet that between now and 2020, some politician will make RESP withdrawals tax-free, as a way to spur more savings on the part of the electorate - the likelihood of INCREASED taxes at a later date seems slim by comparison

4.  they are very expensive/complex for the banks/dealers/brokers  to provide (all the admin function lands on them - they have to keep track) so it&#039;s a chance to make them earn their various fees/commission, LOL

i am unsure what happens in the case that a RESP beneficiary dies - is that a special case of not attending post-secondary eductation or do the default rules apply??

F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other things supporting an RESP are:</p>
<p>1.  unseizable in event of bankruptcy or marital breakdown &#8211; it truly belongs to the kids, no matter what befalls the parents/family</p>
<p>2. the definition of &#8220;post secondary education&#8221; is very broad &#8211; it is not strictly for university, and it is also egalitarian in that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily require the student to actually GRADUATE from the post-secondary programme (ie. the money flows regardless of any scholastic results, but is dependent on continued enrollment each year (which allows for switching between institutions and courses/programmes))</p>
<p>3.  it&#8217;s a good bet that between now and 2020, some politician will make RESP withdrawals tax-free, as a way to spur more savings on the part of the electorate &#8211; the likelihood of INCREASED taxes at a later date seems slim by comparison</p>
<p>4.  they are very expensive/complex for the banks/dealers/brokers  to provide (all the admin function lands on them &#8211; they have to keep track) so it&#8217;s a chance to make them earn their various fees/commission, LOL</p>
<p>i am unsure what happens in the case that a RESP beneficiary dies &#8211; is that a special case of not attending post-secondary eductation or do the default rules apply??</p>
<p>F</p>
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		<title>By: The Big RESP Series</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Big RESP Series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (my apologies to our non-Canadian readers). This topic has been covered by other blogs and myself in various posts but it’s really a topic for several posts. The tricky part of planning this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Basics of Registered Education Savings Plans (RESP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basics of Registered Education Savings Plans (RESP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] times, I hope to provide comprehensive information in this post. You can also refer to Mike&#8217;s recent post for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] times, I hope to provide comprehensive information in this post. You can also refer to Mike&#8217;s recent post for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FourPillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>FourPillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point CC - I should have chosen different years!

I&#039;ll change the example.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point CC &#8211; I should have chosen different years!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll change the example.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your example is slightly inaccurate. For a child born in 2006, you can only get a grant of $900 for a contribution of $4,500 made in 2007. That&#039;s because the grant room is $400 in 2006 (under the old $2,000 limit) and $500 in 2007 (under the new $2,500 limit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example is slightly inaccurate. For a child born in 2006, you can only get a grant of $900 for a contribution of $4,500 made in 2007. That&#8217;s because the grant room is $400 in 2006 (under the old $2,000 limit) and $500 in 2007 (under the new $2,500 limit).</p>
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		<title>By: brip blap &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkling Massive Baby Roundup Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>brip blap &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkling Massive Baby Roundup Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] XI: RESPs: This one is only applicable if you&#8217;re living in Canada; however, although the specific rules [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] XI: RESPs: This one is only applicable if you&rsquo;re living in Canada; however, although the specific rules [...]</p>
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