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		<title>By: joe_dude</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/saving-money-purchasing-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>joe_dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL... the newer games, whether they are FPS, RTS, etc., all require a lot more horsepower these days than any budget computer can handle.

It&#039;s good advice for a &quot;surfing&quot; computer, but I&#039;m not willing to play games so it looks like Colecovision.

Add the cost of an Xbox 360 or PS3, and the budget computer doesn&#039;t look so cheap anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230; the newer games, whether they are FPS, RTS, etc., all require a lot more horsepower these days than any budget computer can handle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good advice for a &#8220;surfing&#8221; computer, but I&#8217;m not willing to play games so it looks like Colecovision.</p>
<p>Add the cost of an Xbox 360 or PS3, and the budget computer doesn&#8217;t look so cheap anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cheap</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/saving-money-purchasing-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Cheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Riscario:  I&#039;ve found some upgrades are worthwhile and others aren&#039;t.  Adding RAM, a bigger HD or a new video card are all affordable ways to extend the life of your system.  I wouldn&#039;t even consider upgrading the CPU or the motherboard (at that point its time to buy a new system).  Fixing broken parts is also always a debate (I was able to fix me ex&#039;s computer when she had a broken power supply - if she would have had to take it to a shop, I&#039;d probably have recommended she replace it instead).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other issue that needs to be factored in is if you can upgade the component yourself.  If you have to pay someone $50 to put in the new stick of RAM, you&#039;d be $50 closer to buying a new computer if you didn&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Passing computers on to family / friends with less needs is a great approach.  For years my parents would always get my cast off desktops (and would be delighted with them).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riscario:  I&#8217;ve found some upgrades are worthwhile and others aren&#8217;t.  Adding RAM, a bigger HD or a new video card are all affordable ways to extend the life of your system.  I wouldn&#8217;t even consider upgrading the CPU or the motherboard (at that point its time to buy a new system).  Fixing broken parts is also always a debate (I was able to fix me ex&#8217;s computer when she had a broken power supply &#8211; if she would have had to take it to a shop, I&#8217;d probably have recommended she replace it instead).</p>
<p>The other issue that needs to be factored in is if you can upgade the component yourself.  If you have to pay someone $50 to put in the new stick of RAM, you&#8217;d be $50 closer to buying a new computer if you didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Passing computers on to family / friends with less needs is a great approach.  For years my parents would always get my cast off desktops (and would be delighted with them).</p>
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		<title>By: Riscario Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riscario Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post and comments. Over the years, I&#039;ve found that replacing is better than upgrading (e.g., adding bigger hard drive or better video card). So I buy a system and keep it as is during its lifetime. When it&#039;s no longer suitable, I cascade it to another family member.  This is usually every two years. I&#039;ve started buying notebook computers (which can&#039;t easily be upgraded anyway).

There are so many choices these days. Using Dell as an example, there is Inspiron for consumers, Vostro for small business, Latitude/XPS for performance. Each has appeal. Within each line, there&#039;s a choice of portability (e.g., 12-13&quot; screen) and capability (e.g., 17&quot; screen). Each has appeal. Then there are different prices every week. 

The end result is inertia --- a form of saving money :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post and comments. Over the years, I&#8217;ve found that replacing is better than upgrading (e.g., adding bigger hard drive or better video card). So I buy a system and keep it as is during its lifetime. When it&#8217;s no longer suitable, I cascade it to another family member.  This is usually every two years. I&#8217;ve started buying notebook computers (which can&#8217;t easily be upgraded anyway).</p>
<p>There are so many choices these days. Using Dell as an example, there is Inspiron for consumers, Vostro for small business, Latitude/XPS for performance. Each has appeal. Within each line, there&#8217;s a choice of portability (e.g., 12-13&#8243; screen) and capability (e.g., 17&#8243; screen). Each has appeal. Then there are different prices every week. </p>
<p>The end result is inertia &#8212; a form of saving money <img src='http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wooly Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wooly Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your philosophy Mr Cheap. My current computer went for 5 years and was custom built (with the help of my brother) by me to save costs. My new laptop is fancier, but I ordered from Dell so I could completely customize, choosing the requirements I need to business but not added extras I don&#039;t need. I don&#039;t use it for gaming or music but I need a decent processor, and larger hard drive than off the shelf models have. My splurge was the 17&quot; screen for mapping- not completely necessary but a nice advantage :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your philosophy Mr Cheap. My current computer went for 5 years and was custom built (with the help of my brother) by me to save costs. My new laptop is fancier, but I ordered from Dell so I could completely customize, choosing the requirements I need to business but not added extras I don&#8217;t need. I don&#8217;t use it for gaming or music but I need a decent processor, and larger hard drive than off the shelf models have. My splurge was the 17&#8243; screen for mapping- not completely necessary but a nice advantage <img src='http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mariam</title>
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		<dc:creator>mariam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to build my own computers and buy quality parts with the intention that I would just upgrade parts as needed.  That just doesn&#039;t work as 3 years down the line, the new generation CPUs won&#039;t fit the motherboard or the RAM speed is not optimized.  So I would end up rebuilding a whole new machine and give my castoffs (still very good machines) to my brothers.  

I do spend a lot on my computers but it doubles as my entertainment system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to build my own computers and buy quality parts with the intention that I would just upgrade parts as needed.  That just doesn&#8217;t work as 3 years down the line, the new generation CPUs won&#8217;t fit the motherboard or the RAM speed is not optimized.  So I would end up rebuilding a whole new machine and give my castoffs (still very good machines) to my brothers.  </p>
<p>I do spend a lot on my computers but it doubles as my entertainment system.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cheap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Cheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WC:  You&#039;re right, but the difference is with computers isn&#039;t that they&#039;re different product lines, but they&#039;re the same thing (basically) just newer.  So its as if the Lexus turned into a Toyota after you&#039;d owned it for 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WC:  You&#8217;re right, but the difference is with computers isn&#8217;t that they&#8217;re different product lines, but they&#8217;re the same thing (basically) just newer.  So its as if the Lexus turned into a Toyota after you&#8217;d owned it for 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: the Wealthy Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Wealthy Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar arguments can be used for many products. 
e.g., Instead of buying a new Lexus sedan buy a used Toyota Avalon.  Invest the difference in what you were going to pay.  By the time you&#039;re ready for your next car you&#039;ve got the cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar arguments can be used for many products.<br />
e.g., Instead of buying a new Lexus sedan buy a used Toyota Avalon.  Invest the difference in what you were going to pay.  By the time you&#8217;re ready for your next car you&#8217;ve got the cash.</p>
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		<title>By: NeverStopBuying.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeverStopBuying.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or only buy when there&#039;s excellent deal, or price error. 

bought before:
$649 Dell 640m (BIG price error)
$389 Dell AMD X2 Desktop with Vista, that&#039;s &quot;supposed&quot; to end after 500 units, try 5000

On Sale now:
$399 Dell Vostro 200 Desktop with an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4400 (2.00GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800FSB), 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, 16x DVD Burner and Vista Basic

I agree, cheapest desktop works fine as long as you have expansion room (aka PCI-E slot, SATA slots, etc...)

Now, it&#039;s a different story when you consider Apple iMac. They don&#039;t start cheap at all, but I suppose they have bigger &quot;Bragging&quot; rights~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or only buy when there&#8217;s excellent deal, or price error. </p>
<p>bought before:<br />
$649 Dell 640m (BIG price error)<br />
$389 Dell AMD X2 Desktop with Vista, that&#8217;s &#8220;supposed&#8221; to end after 500 units, try 5000</p>
<p>On Sale now:<br />
$399 Dell Vostro 200 Desktop with an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4400 (2.00GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800FSB), 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, 16x DVD Burner and Vista Basic</p>
<p>I agree, cheapest desktop works fine as long as you have expansion room (aka PCI-E slot, SATA slots, etc&#8230;)</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s a different story when you consider Apple iMac. They don&#8217;t start cheap at all, but I suppose they have bigger &#8220;Bragging&#8221; rights~</p>
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		<title>By: FourPillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>FourPillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telly you might want to look at an online backup service.  

I bought an external hard drive and occasionally back everything up there.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telly you might want to look at an online backup service.  </p>
<p>I bought an external hard drive and occasionally back everything up there.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: telly</title>
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		<dc:creator>telly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:  Though I&#039;m no computer nerd, I like the idea of open source (but would not have a problem with owning shares of Apple...).

I don&#039;t think I&#039;d go for it, but I like the idea of someone (or something) storing and backing up my data for me.  We&#039;re very bad about backing up our files yet we have &gt;300G of data since we use a music server /streamer and sold or gave away most of the cds we&#039;ve ripped.  That would suck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:  Though I&#8217;m no computer nerd, I like the idea of open source (but would not have a problem with owning shares of Apple&#8230;).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d go for it, but I like the idea of someone (or something) storing and backing up my data for me.  We&#8217;re very bad about backing up our files yet we have &gt;300G of data since we use a music server /streamer and sold or gave away most of the cds we&#8217;ve ripped.  That would suck&#8230;</p>
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