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	<title>Comments on: Toronto Garbage Strike &#8211; What Do You Think?</title>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I know ,  unions are devils and your an angel . and maybe your making a good living or maybe your not but why be jealous of others trying to keep benefits they negociated.

True ultimately many of these jobs will be contacted out for slave wages but don&#039;t think your taxes are going to go down, because they will find other things to spend that money on and little of witch will benefit you.
As for paying taxes we are do that and it is rediculous to act as if your the only ones paying the bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I know ,  unions are devils and your an angel . and maybe your making a good living or maybe your not but why be jealous of others trying to keep benefits they negociated.</p>
<p>True ultimately many of these jobs will be contacted out for slave wages but don&#8217;t think your taxes are going to go down, because they will find other things to spend that money on and little of witch will benefit you.<br />
As for paying taxes we are do that and it is rediculous to act as if your the only ones paying the bills.</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally !!</description>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that a sort of solution has been reach, we have to move on for the future. So,for the next election, Miller is history. Secondly we have make plans to privatize the garbage collection and get rid of the prima donnas before this tenative contract expires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that a sort of solution has been reach, we have to move on for the future. So,for the next election, Miller is history. Secondly we have make plans to privatize the garbage collection and get rid of the prima donnas before this tenative contract expires.</p>
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		<title>By: tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am proud to be a Torontonian. However, our spineless Mayor and CUPE members have let us down.
He should have fired these greedy __________ and then would gain our respect. CUPE held us hostage , it left us students without income ( money that helps us through the year), it left kids of lower income families without pools, it left working parents scampering about for daycare and paying exorbitant amounts for camps.  Isn&quot;t it ironic! A union, set up for the welfare of the working man has turned out to hurt the middle class working (NON UNION WORKERS) public of this city the most!! 
These city workers risk nothing (unlike private sectors, who put in their blood and sweat- and don&#039;t know what sick days are) and yet demand everything. Shame on them.  How can you be a high school drop out  and ask for the privelege of a doctor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am proud to be a Torontonian. However, our spineless Mayor and CUPE members have let us down.<br />
He should have fired these greedy __________ and then would gain our respect. CUPE held us hostage , it left us students without income ( money that helps us through the year), it left kids of lower income families without pools, it left working parents scampering about for daycare and paying exorbitant amounts for camps.  Isn&#8221;t it ironic! A union, set up for the welfare of the working man has turned out to hurt the middle class working (NON UNION WORKERS) public of this city the most!!<br />
These city workers risk nothing (unlike private sectors, who put in their blood and sweat- and don&#8217;t know what sick days are) and yet demand everything. Shame on them.  How can you be a high school drop out  and ask for the privelege of a doctor?</p>
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		<title>By: dmz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Victor:<br />
It was the Province that prevented the ad-hoc creation of private citizens’ garbage removal, NOT the City.  Only the Province can approve a company fit to handle and abide by the environmental regulations. Any company that already held a license from the Province was permitted to continue their services.</p>
<p>@ Glenda:<br />
If the Province and the Feds would appropriately fund and stop cutting Canada&#8217;s social programs in order to give out income tax cuts there would be no need for non-profit sectors like Habitat, OCAP, and many more to exist.<br />
Did you know the Toronto Housing Corp has the same population as PEI?  (Over 130,000 residents)</p>
<p>If I quit being a social worker for the municipality I would be making 120.00+/hr per client in the private sector.  But, I prefer to help the poor who cannot afford private practice rates.  If we don&#8217;t do the job, who will?  Certainly not you, since it seems that no one really cared when Welfare rates were reduced by 21.6% in the 90’s, EI Benefits are consistently reduced, cuts to our education system, unaffordable ppost secondary tuitions, rents that are more than a persons total monthly welfare cheque or even minimum wage salaries.</p>
<p>The current Feds took away our additional daycare subsidy funding for more daycare spaces that the City fought decades to get.  And then the Province changed our eligibility requirements making more working people eligible.  That’s terrific but they did this before we even had enough spaces to accommodate the influx of new clients.</p>
<p>Wake up and realise that our governments were never designed to effectively work for our large cities.  Our system of governing was designed when Canada was a rural country and towns simply were a place that needed roads so you could access supplies for your farms.  And Canada has never restructured its system of governing and taxation after the Industrial Age changed our country in dramatic ways.</p>
<p> The fact of the matter is that I, as well as many co-workers, am AGAINST this strike; I think it is a waste of time and the Union may not necessarily have our best interests in mind.  Point of fact: we aren’t informed or contacted by the negotiating teams; we are under the media blackout just like you are.<br />
And this strike is simply going to make our work life even worse with a whole new barrage of threats, assaults, and hostility when we return. </p>
<p> I will continue to work for the City of Toronto and treat my clients fairly and respectfully and continue to advocate for better social programs such as welfare, daycare subsidy, affordable housing for those in our society who, for whatever reason, don’t succeed in school, obtain good paying jobs, have the luck to be born without disabilities or to middle and upper class families, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Beh G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beh G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DMZ:  With all due respect, let me throw back at you the same argument you and your supporters have been hrowing out since this strike began.  If you feel that big bad CEO&#039;s and politicians make too much money, go become one!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DMZ:  With all due respect, let me throw back at you the same argument you and your supporters have been hrowing out since this strike began.  If you feel that big bad CEO&#8217;s and politicians make too much money, go become one!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, can anyone explain WHY the city is opposed to citizens solving the garbage crisis in creative ways? For example, charging a small fee to take bags to the dump sounded like a great entrepreneurial idea to me. Same with hiring private companies to service particular neighborhoods. I don&#039;t understand why the city would be opposed to any solution that would make this strike more bearable for its citizens. Can anyone shed any light on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, can anyone explain WHY the city is opposed to citizens solving the garbage crisis in creative ways? For example, charging a small fee to take bags to the dump sounded like a great entrepreneurial idea to me. Same with hiring private companies to service particular neighborhoods. I don&#8217;t understand why the city would be opposed to any solution that would make this strike more bearable for its citizens. Can anyone shed any light on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DMZ - What exactly is your point? That corporations use every tool at their disposal to compete in their sectors and make as much profit as possible? Frankly, I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll find too many people opposed to that model here on a financial blog. 

For better or worse, you live in a society based on capitalism. Your &#039;evil CEOs&#039; are faced with choices which must result in the greatest benefit for their shareholders. Faced with union issues and minimum wage increases like those described here, ask yourself why manufacturing companies are fleeing to the Far East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DMZ &#8211; What exactly is your point? That corporations use every tool at their disposal to compete in their sectors and make as much profit as possible? Frankly, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll find too many people opposed to that model here on a financial blog. </p>
<p>For better or worse, you live in a society based on capitalism. Your &#8216;evil CEOs&#8217; are faced with choices which must result in the greatest benefit for their shareholders. Faced with union issues and minimum wage increases like those described here, ask yourself why manufacturing companies are fleeing to the Far East.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You failed to answer any of my questions and coninue to only rant about wages I am a student and am working at one of Canadas large banks and unlike many public camps and such which have $4 /hr student wages the bank is paying me $ 11.68 an hour which is above minimum wage so i don&#039;t really consider that being screwed over. Of corse the economic crisis is all one big lie another way for the big bad CEOs to screw the public over. I am guessing that the super high unemployment rate is also one big lie. My mother is a executive in the same bank and guess what she also is not getting paid as much. Let me explin how a company works the tellers get paid less then executives just like a garbage man gets paid less then a police man. You get paid for what your  job  is worth a executive does FAR more work then a teller and a police man does far more work then a garbage man. Unioun workers already get paid far more then the market value of their job and yet you still want more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You failed to answer any of my questions and coninue to only rant about wages I am a student and am working at one of Canadas large banks and unlike many public camps and such which have $4 /hr student wages the bank is paying me $ 11.68 an hour which is above minimum wage so i don&#8217;t really consider that being screwed over. Of corse the economic crisis is all one big lie another way for the big bad CEOs to screw the public over. I am guessing that the super high unemployment rate is also one big lie. My mother is a executive in the same bank and guess what she also is not getting paid as much. Let me explin how a company works the tellers get paid less then executives just like a garbage man gets paid less then a police man. You get paid for what your  job  is worth a executive does FAR more work then a teller and a police man does far more work then a garbage man. Unioun workers already get paid far more then the market value of their job and yet you still want more.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;..most profitable corporations pay their frontline staff minimum wage and use every tactic at their disposal to stay non-union, while lobbying against minimum wage increases. As far as they’re concerned, it’s never a good time to increase the minimum wage. Now they’re using the recession as an excuse to keep minimum wage as low as possible. In boom times, they’ll still oppose minimum wage increases.<br />
Small business owners, on the other hand, have no obligations to shareholders and can pay their employees a living wage without worrying about what the public thinks.&#8221;<br />
In Ontario, where the minimum wage is $9.50 an hour, big business is already lobbying the McGuinty government to cancel the scheduled increase to $10.25 an hour at the end of March next year because of the recession.&#8221;  Bodnar, John, 2009</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the trend so far:<br />
90&#8242;s recession:<br />
 resulted in Welfare, education and social program cuts and downloading of social program costs to Ontario municipalites which aren&#8217;t permitted to implement revenue generating programs.</p>
<p>2009 recession:<br />
 resulting in cuts to union contract.</p>
<p>Now finally when min wage just got increased this year; they are fighting to reduce it?  Wake up and smell the coffee people!</p>
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