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		<title>By: Regular Random Readings &#124; Canadian Penny Stocks Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regular Random Readings &#124; Canadian Penny Stocks Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Four Pillars &#8211; moneysmartsblog.com &#8211; A long time read of mine that is all about Canadian Personal Finance.  The topics covered a varied but all come back to personal finance in some way.  My favourite are Mr Cheap&#8217;s series of Wacky Business Ideas (like the &#8220;Economy Condo idea&#8220;). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our first apartment was about that size. Renting it was fine for about 4 years but I don&#039;t think we would have bought something like that. I guess at the very least we&#039;d need to wait and see some resale numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our first apartment was about that size. Renting it was fine for about 4 years but I don&#8217;t think we would have bought something like that. I guess at the very least we&#8217;d need to wait and see some resale numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Bargain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Bargain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low -end finishes and materials don&#039;t have to be ugly.  I think these could be livable and attractive.  I think you could live without the windows if you had access to some sort of shared green space either in a courtyard or a roof garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low -end finishes and materials don&#8217;t have to be ugly.  I think these could be livable and attractive.  I think you could live without the windows if you had access to some sort of shared green space either in a courtyard or a roof garden.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, to add to that. Having low-end finishing as well as low maintenance grounds (paved/brick etc), it would keep management expenses way down for investors. Low strata and cheap replacement of damaged finishing/appliances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, to add to that. Having low-end finishing as well as low maintenance grounds (paved/brick etc), it would keep management expenses way down for investors. Low strata and cheap replacement of damaged finishing/appliances.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you got here is similar to low income housing, only accessible to the general public.

I like the idea, but it falls down for me when you mention down town etc. The land is so in demand down town that the price per square foot of dirt, when a 40 story building is stacked up on it, is tremendously valuable. 

This would be a fantastic idea around universities/colleges or anywhere requiring cheap temporary housing. Investors would scoop them up if the price was cash flowing out of the box given the rental market. By locating them in high demand areas, the demand is built in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you got here is similar to low income housing, only accessible to the general public.</p>
<p>I like the idea, but it falls down for me when you mention down town etc. The land is so in demand down town that the price per square foot of dirt, when a 40 story building is stacked up on it, is tremendously valuable. </p>
<p>This would be a fantastic idea around universities/colleges or anywhere requiring cheap temporary housing. Investors would scoop them up if the price was cash flowing out of the box given the rental market. By locating them in high demand areas, the demand is built in.</p>
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		<title>By: Shank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is a wacky idea...but everyone in the comment section seems to be looking at this idea from the vantage point of the end user (i.e. the law firm for their associates or the young student). While i agree that these groups may be for these economy units I believe one must consider the developers vantage point.

We know that the value of housing/condos increases exponentially with size and luxury. Based on downtown prices for condo&#039;s here in toronto a 950sq foot recently listed fro $500k, while most 650sq feet list for 300k.  From the developers vantage point, they would rather create nicer, slightly bigger units to maximize the land&#039;s value rather than sell economy condos when prime land (downtown) is being considered, which is why downtown economy condo&#039;s likely would be a tough sell.

A scenario where i could see both developers and end users coming together would be land slightly off the beaten path and in under developed areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is a wacky idea&#8230;but everyone in the comment section seems to be looking at this idea from the vantage point of the end user (i.e. the law firm for their associates or the young student). While i agree that these groups may be for these economy units I believe one must consider the developers vantage point.</p>
<p>We know that the value of housing/condos increases exponentially with size and luxury. Based on downtown prices for condo&#8217;s here in toronto a 950sq foot recently listed fro $500k, while most 650sq feet list for 300k.  From the developers vantage point, they would rather create nicer, slightly bigger units to maximize the land&#8217;s value rather than sell economy condos when prime land (downtown) is being considered, which is why downtown economy condo&#8217;s likely would be a tough sell.</p>
<p>A scenario where i could see both developers and end users coming together would be land slightly off the beaten path and in under developed areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Thicken My Wallet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thicken My Wallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another not so wacky idea. 

Some of the new condos going up in the former Regent Park are built as economy condos; nothing fancy but it gives residents pride of ownership.

As a complete aside, big law firms have &quot;sleep rooms&quot; for their associates; typically small internal offices that have a bed- more a bench- and nothing else (they don&#039;t show your those offices on the firm tour!). Yeah, pretty sad comment on the state of associate life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another not so wacky idea. </p>
<p>Some of the new condos going up in the former Regent Park are built as economy condos; nothing fancy but it gives residents pride of ownership.</p>
<p>As a complete aside, big law firms have &#8220;sleep rooms&#8221; for their associates; typically small internal offices that have a bed- more a bench- and nothing else (they don&#8217;t show your those offices on the firm tour!). Yeah, pretty sad comment on the state of associate life.</p>
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		<title>By: nobleea</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobleea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i&#039;m pretty sure there has to be at least one window, specifically in the bedroom.

the idea&#039;s not that wacky though. i&#039;m sure you see 400 sq ft condos (new) in most big cities in canada. they&#039;re not made economy though, they likely have some pretty nice features.
a lot of canadian cities wouldn&#039;t allow a utilitarian/gulag type building in their bustling and growing downtowns. it&#039;s got to at least look good.

i&#039;d have no problem in a 400 sq ft condo, as long as the finishes and details were there.

perhaps in TO or vancouver you get these ultra luxurious condos with concierges, but out here in alberta, there&#039;s maybe one or two buildings that have that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i&#8217;m pretty sure there has to be at least one window, specifically in the bedroom.</p>
<p>the idea&#8217;s not that wacky though. i&#8217;m sure you see 400 sq ft condos (new) in most big cities in canada. they&#8217;re not made economy though, they likely have some pretty nice features.<br />
a lot of canadian cities wouldn&#8217;t allow a utilitarian/gulag type building in their bustling and growing downtowns. it&#8217;s got to at least look good.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d have no problem in a 400 sq ft condo, as long as the finishes and details were there.</p>
<p>perhaps in TO or vancouver you get these ultra luxurious condos with concierges, but out here in alberta, there&#8217;s maybe one or two buildings that have that.</p>
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		<title>By: Swati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything else sounds fine but the no-window breaks the deal. Need a window!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything else sounds fine but the no-window breaks the deal. Need a window!</p>
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		<title>By: Drummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;d probably appeal to some people, though I bet  that most fire codes anywhere in North America wouldn&#039;t allow windowless condos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d probably appeal to some people, though I bet  that most fire codes anywhere in North America wouldn&#8217;t allow windowless condos.</p>
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