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		<title>By: Mr. Cheap</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/you-can-argue-with-results/comment-page-1/#comment-30615</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Cheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mlgreen8753:  Good luck with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlgreen8753:  Good luck with that.</p>
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		<title>By: mlgreen8753</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/you-can-argue-with-results/comment-page-1/#comment-30591</link>
		<dc:creator>mlgreen8753</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have decided to manage my own investments because my mentor Robert Kiyosaki warns against entrusting your capital for someone else to manage. If an investor is willing to learn, he or she can be successful in managing there own stocks. I choose to follow his advice, which is why I am absorbing all I can about stock investing. I am testing the waters with a company called Mentor Capital, which has a 20% interest in a privately held biotech company with FDA authorized clinical trials in the works for a fascinating new breast cancer treatment. I chose this stock not only because I want to get in low and potentially profit huge when the treatment hits the market, but also because I know I would be helping to support a breast cancer treatment that will give many people hope and happiness in regards to a disease that has devastated far too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have decided to manage my own investments because my mentor Robert Kiyosaki warns against entrusting your capital for someone else to manage. If an investor is willing to learn, he or she can be successful in managing there own stocks. I choose to follow his advice, which is why I am absorbing all I can about stock investing. I am testing the waters with a company called Mentor Capital, which has a 20% interest in a privately held biotech company with FDA authorized clinical trials in the works for a fascinating new breast cancer treatment. I chose this stock not only because I want to get in low and potentially profit huge when the treatment hits the market, but also because I know I would be helping to support a breast cancer treatment that will give many people hope and happiness in regards to a disease that has devastated far too many.</p>
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		<title>By: The Financial Blogger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Financial Ramblings</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/you-can-argue-with-results/comment-page-1/#comment-29806</link>
		<dc:creator>The Financial Blogger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Financial Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pillars says that you CAN argue with results… I always argue [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This and That: The Greenback Effect and more&#8230; &#124; Canadian Capitalist</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/you-can-argue-with-results/comment-page-1/#comment-28874</link>
		<dc:creator>This and That: The Greenback Effect and more&#8230; &#124; Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mr. Cheap warns investors not to confuse ex ante expectations with ex post results. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mr. Cheap warns investors not to confuse ex ante expectations with ex post results. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BigAssSuperstar</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/you-can-argue-with-results/comment-page-1/#comment-28810</link>
		<dc:creator>BigAssSuperstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good pull with the Swingers quote, baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good pull with the Swingers quote, baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Shop For Insurance</title>
		<link>http://www.moneysmartsblog.com/you-can-argue-with-results/comment-page-1/#comment-28709</link>
		<dc:creator>Shop For Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any investment salesperson, be it mutual fund companies to financial advisors to product reps have a near infinite amount of &quot;results&quot; to back up any pitch.  They can use these &quot;results&quot; to &quot;prove&quot; just about anything.  When it comes down to it, you have to take everything with a grain of salt.  Truth is relative.  BTW, love the Swingers intro.  SO MONEY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any investment salesperson, be it mutual fund companies to financial advisors to product reps have a near infinite amount of &#8220;results&#8221; to back up any pitch.  They can use these &#8220;results&#8221; to &#8220;prove&#8221; just about anything.  When it comes down to it, you have to take everything with a grain of salt.  Truth is relative.  BTW, love the Swingers intro.  SO MONEY!</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Investors frequently confuse ex-ante and ex-post outcomes. It is rampant in financial journalism -- analysts achieve &quot;guru&quot; status for right calls without any analysis of how many predictions were made ex ante. A lot of investors fall into this trap -- Foster wasn&#039;t the first and he won&#039;t be the last. Thanks for the mention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investors frequently confuse ex-ante and ex-post outcomes. It is rampant in financial journalism &#8212; analysts achieve &#8220;guru&#8221; status for right calls without any analysis of how many predictions were made ex ante. A lot of investors fall into this trap &#8212; Foster wasn&#8217;t the first and he won&#8217;t be the last. Thanks for the mention!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are pointing to the biggest problem that I have had in getting the word out about the realities of stock investing, Mike.

Stocks on average provide a long-term return of 6.5 percent real. When stocks are insanely popular, they provide on average a &lt;i&gt;negative&lt;/i&gt; long-term return. When stocks are hated, they provide an average long-term return of &lt;i&gt;15&lt;/i&gt; percent real.

Stocks don&#039;t actually provide a long-term return of 6.5 percent to any but a small number of investors. Why? Because most buy most of their stocks when the long-term return is negative and then are unwilling to buy stocks at all when the long-term return is 15 percent. Passive Investors are forced to sell when those negative returns come in because they were expecting to see long-term returns of 6.5 percent and that is just not in the cards for Passives.

All of this can be verified by looking at the historical record. The same realities evidence themselves over and over again. But the most common response you hear in reaction to these realities is &quot;Stocks have been doing great!&quot; Stocks have always been doing great for a long time when they are exceedingly dangerous for the long-term investor. It&#039;s their popularity that makes them so dangerous.

This is a case where people will actually deny that the numbers are what the numbers are because the numbers conflict with what recent experience tells them &quot;must&quot; be so. The studies we all use to plan our retirements all get the numbers wildly wrong. Why? They are structured to confirm for us what &quot;must&quot; be so but never in fact has been so in the real world.

You&#039;re writing about something important, in my assessment.

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are pointing to the biggest problem that I have had in getting the word out about the realities of stock investing, Mike.</p>
<p>Stocks on average provide a long-term return of 6.5 percent real. When stocks are insanely popular, they provide on average a <i>negative</i> long-term return. When stocks are hated, they provide an average long-term return of <i>15</i> percent real.</p>
<p>Stocks don&#8217;t actually provide a long-term return of 6.5 percent to any but a small number of investors. Why? Because most buy most of their stocks when the long-term return is negative and then are unwilling to buy stocks at all when the long-term return is 15 percent. Passive Investors are forced to sell when those negative returns come in because they were expecting to see long-term returns of 6.5 percent and that is just not in the cards for Passives.</p>
<p>All of this can be verified by looking at the historical record. The same realities evidence themselves over and over again. But the most common response you hear in reaction to these realities is &#8220;Stocks have been doing great!&#8221; Stocks have always been doing great for a long time when they are exceedingly dangerous for the long-term investor. It&#8217;s their popularity that makes them so dangerous.</p>
<p>This is a case where people will actually deny that the numbers are what the numbers are because the numbers conflict with what recent experience tells them &#8220;must&#8221; be so. The studies we all use to plan our retirements all get the numbers wildly wrong. Why? They are structured to confirm for us what &#8220;must&#8221; be so but never in fact has been so in the real world.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re writing about something important, in my assessment.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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